ReinhartRussian Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 By far the worst PvP I have ever encountered (borderline as bad as Warhammer online when it came out) Can't believe after 4 years we get this much of atrocity of the gameplay. I hate WoW but that game is 10x better in PvP than this garbage. Sorc wars not Star Wars. How can developers in this game let this happen for so long. Like look at the ladder boards PT has everyone beat by 600 ratings and sorc has PT beat by another 150. Isn't this alarming to how bad the balance in this game truly is. And this game is not hard to balance where PvE won't be affected. Sorcs: Remove Unnatural preservation (its a really big self heal that is only on 30 sec CD pve wise won't make big difference PvP it will help us) Remove Empty Body (+10% healing inc) Make roaming mend heal 1 target once Reduce Force Barrier to 4 sec duration remove Damage absorption after channel PTs: Make Carbonize break on Damage Put charge on 30 sec CD for Non Tanks This is really pathetic. Thought this could be a great filler till legion but this game is utter trash when it comes to PvP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziffron Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 putting charge on a longer CD won't do jack, guardians will just use force push more often to reset the cooldown, and most of these changes, such as the damage absorption and removal of unnatural preservation, would gut sorc survivability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinhartRussian Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) putting charge on a longer CD won't do jack, guardians will just use force push more often to reset the cooldown, and most of these changes, such as the damage absorption and removal of unnatural preservation, would gut sorc survivability. PTs nothing to be said about guardians And its not gutting when the class has too much. Look at mercs survivability. Off heals should come at a cost and currently Sorc DPS or heals has too much healing / absorption on top of damage immunities and some of the best escapes in a game. Thats the idea to reduce sorcs survivability Edited February 14, 2016 by ReinhartRussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpmewin Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) Solo ranked can't be balanced. First of all its 4 different matchmaked games - 4*4 DPS game, 3 DPS + tank game, 2 DPS + tank + healer game, heal + 3 DPS game. Second its all about luck and third if u trying to balance yolo - this can broke everything else. Edited February 14, 2016 by helpmewin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinhartRussian Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 Solo ranked can't be balanced. First of all its 3 different mtchamaked games - 4*4 DPS game, 3 DPS + tank game, 2 DPS + tank + healer game. Second its all about luck and third if u trying to balance yolo - this can broke everything else. How can you talk about yolo when sorc has one of on everyone. Look at the ratings they have the highest rating possible among all classes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpmewin Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) How can you talk about yolo when sorc has one of on everyone. Look at the ratings they have the highest rating possible among all classes Sorcs are broken, its happened when combat team(they are exists?) decided to ignore feedbacks since 3.0 and listen salty whines on this forum. And solo rating means nothing. Hight rated sorcs healers mostly and PTs - tanks. Edited February 14, 2016 by helpmewin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwurdilu Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Sorcs are broken, its happened when combat team(they are exists?) decided to ignore feedbacks since 3.0 and listen salty whines on this forum. And solo rating means nothing. Hight rated sorcs healers mostly and PTs - tanks. wrong. This happenend when playerbase mocked devs for heal2full. Sorc in its current state is their revenge.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surbatu Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 wrong. This happenend when playerbase mocked devs for heal2full. Sorc in its current state is their revenge.... Yes just look at your merc, NOW BACK TO SORC, now back at merc, NOW BACK TO SORC, I'm on a horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpmewin Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) wrong. This happenend when playerbase mocked devs for heal2full. Sorc in its current state is their revenge.... Yes, i was wrong. When they don't know how to buff sorcs and gave them stun bubble and dat ruined all RWZ when a lot of teams decided to stop q, coz every mediocre team started to abuse this ****. Edited February 14, 2016 by helpmewin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surbatu Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Yes, i was wrong. When they don't know how to buff sorcs and gave them stun bubble and dat ruined all RWZ when a lot of teams decided to stop q, coz every mediocre team started to abuse this ****. no this and this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpmewin Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) no this and this Stun bubble was a far before, sorry bro. Actually bubble princess class always was number 1 whiner in this game. Sometimes i think game should turning around this class. Edited February 14, 2016 by helpmewin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icykill_ Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 By far the worst PvP I have ever encountered (borderline as bad as Warhammer online when it came out) Can't believe after 4 years we get this much of atrocity of the gameplay. I hate WoW but that game is 10x better in PvP than this garbage. Sorc wars not Star Wars. How can developers in this game let this happen for so long. Like look at the ladder boards PT has everyone beat by 600 ratings and sorc has PT beat by another 150. Isn't this alarming to how bad the balance in this game truly is. And this game is not hard to balance where PvE won't be affected. Sorcs: Remove Unnatural preservation (its a really big self heal that is only on 30 sec CD pve wise won't make big difference PvP it will help us) Remove Empty Body (+10% healing inc) Make roaming mend heal 1 target once Reduce Force Barrier to 4 sec duration remove Damage absorption after channel PTs: Make Carbonize break on Damage Put charge on 30 sec CD for Non Tanks This is really pathetic. Thought this could be a great filler till legion but this game is utter trash when it comes to PvP So cya forever than. Balance in PVP is not even on the radar. This is now a story telling game with some side attractions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggannath Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) I hate WoW but that game is 10x better in PvP than this garbage. You wouldn't be saying that if you had done any real PvP this expansion (warlords). SWTOR pvp has issues but the ones in WoW are a farcry from this game, and far more game-breaking and equally ignored by their dev team if not more. There are specs in WoW that can effectively function as Sith Juggernaut (minus Guard but all the survivability and cds), Sith Assassin and a Sith Sorceror all in one toon. You have dps toons with self heals through the roof with zero cast times or impactful resource/GCD costs and healing toons which either die in seconds or stay alive in addition to running circles around you with insane mobility. Your complaint is Sorc heals? **** you'll bawl your eyes out in a single rbg match in WoW. So yeah, please go ahead and get your *** to World of Failcraft and make another post like this on their forums next week. EDIT: LOL'd hard at your Legion comment. If only you were in Alpha right now, you'd realize what kind of sheetstorm you have headed for you pvp-wise. Edited February 19, 2016 by Jaggannath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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