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So there is something I want to do, but it requires 9+ full suits of Bind-to-Legacy gear. Is it ok to make a character run to the first mailbox, retrieve the free BoL armors, mail them, then delete the character and repeat the process? This is not something I have done yet due to not wanting to violate some policy, but would be handy.
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Well, the somewhat sketchy thing I'd be doing is creating a character just for the starting rewards and deleting it, that feels a bit like gaming the system.

 

As to the 9x BoL suits I want to level a Jedi Guardian, Sentinel, Juggernaut and Marauder to 55 with the 12x xp thingie, if I can get a full set of BoL pieces for every 4 levels or so I can just transfer them all to the next character to level up and not need to worry about gearing them up.

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Well, the somewhat sketchy thing I'd be doing is creating a character just for the starting rewards and deleting it, that feels a bit like gaming the system.

 

As to the 9x BoL suits I want to level a Jedi Guardian, Sentinel, Juggernaut and Marauder to 55 with the 12x xp thingie, if I can get a full set of BoL pieces for every 4 levels or so I can just transfer them all to the next character to level up and not need to worry about gearing them up.

 

hoping you have a cybertech char and tons of mats XD

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If it's Bind to Legacy you can make as many copies as you want, right? What am I missing here?

 

"Bind To Legacy" does not mean "can make as many copies as you like."

 

What you're thinking of is gear in your Collections, that has already been unlocked.

 

Now, if you have a full suit of BtL gear in your collections, unlocked, then yes you would be able to make as many copies as you want. But not just because it's BtL.

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As to the 9x BoL suits I want to level a Jedi Guardian, Sentinel, Juggernaut and Marauder to 55 with the 12x xp thingie, if I can get a full set of BoL pieces for every 4 levels or so I can just transfer them all to the next character to level up and not need to worry about gearing them up.

A slightly simpler way to do that - provided all the alts use the same basic stat, in this case Strength - would be to rotate the alts through just 4 sets of armor. Upgrade the lowest level armor to the highest level and then shift that to the highest level alt and rotate the armor sets down through the other alts. This would require levelling all 4 alts at the same time though.

 

I recently did something similar to that with a Commando and Elara Dorn - swapping BtL between then as I levelled. That was easy enough because they were both Aim.

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"Bind To Legacy" does not mean "can make as many copies as you like."

 

What you're thinking of is gear in your Collections, that has already been unlocked.

 

Now, if you have a full suit of BtL gear in your collections, unlocked, then yes you would be able to make as many copies as you want. But not just because it's BtL.

 

Pardon me. Let me revise my statement: "If the set is Bound to Legacy (meaning it is already in your collections, other wise it wouldn't be bound, would it?), AND you have paid the CCs to "unlock it," THEN you can make as many copies as you want."

 

Happy now?

 

But further, if OP wants to do it the way he described, with nine sets he keeps transferring between toons in his legacy, then he will need to furnish those sets with mods. (And what about companions? They need love, too.) He wants to do the 1-55 thing on the 12XP. Normally you get mods from planetary commendations. My little spreadsheet tells me you need about 95 commendations per toon per level. If you equip your companion with orange hear, too, that's another 95. Now, just so I don't get another corrective from deli, it may not be QUITE that many depending on which weapons you carry.

 

Now, you get commendations by doing quests or flashpoints, but if you're doing the 12XP thing you're not doing the quests, so you aren't earning the commendations. Add them up. We're talking near 1000 commendations here and another 1000 for the companions. Note that the commendation price doubles for Level 50 mods and getting beyond 50? Oh, my goodness! It's a whole new ballgame. So either you do flashpoints over and over and over and over again, since they tend to drop a greater number of commendations than quests, which usually net you a single one, or three if you're doing a heroic, or you BUY the mods from the GTN.

 

So where are you going to get the credits? Mods are hot on the GTN right now. The market has rebounded after the Stronghold slump. Plain old "enhancements" that don't even deal with your main stat are going for 20K no matter what the level. Your not going to get the kind of money you need by selling drops on the GTN because you won't have that many drops if you're just doing the class stories. You need a source of income and you don't have one. Taking slicing as a gathering skill might net you some lockboxes, but I can't see how it would be enough.

 

Now, of course you can buy and sell hypercrates, but that means your using Real World money to buy Cartel Coins to buy hypercrates to sell for credits on the GTN.

 

So I'd be real curious about the rest of your plan here and how you intend to pull it off. Sounds like a lot of work.

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Pardon me. Let me revise my statement: "If the set is Bound to Legacy (meaning it is already in your collections, other wise it wouldn't be bound, would it?), AND you have paid the CCs to "unlock it," THEN you can make as many copies as you want."

 

Happy now?

 

Bound to Legacy and in your collection is not the same thing. If an item is in your collection, you can reproduce it as often as you like. You can pay CCs to unlock it for all your characters, so that all characters can use it.

 

In addition to that, there are items that are Bound to Legacy, these cannot be reproduced, but they can be sent to other characters in your Legacy even if they contain Bound mods that normally couldn't be given away.

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Bound to Legacy and in your collection is not the same thing. If an item is in your collection, you can reproduce it as often as you like. You can pay CCs to unlock it for all your characters, so that all characters can use it.

 

In addition to that, there are items that are Bound to Legacy, these cannot be reproduced, but they can be sent to other characters in your Legacy even if they contain Bound mods that normally couldn't be given away.

 

Hmm. That's interesting. Like give an example. We're talking ARMOR SETS here though, right? The OP is discussing making multiple copies of ARMOR SETS, so is there an ARMOR SET that qualifies for this special case of being Bound to Legacy but NOT a part of collections that can be freely copied?

 

You pay CCs to unlock something in your collection? That's funny. I thought so, too, but today I placed an armor set in my collection, which is done simply by putting it on, mind you. You don't have to DO anything special. Then I went to the collections and made a copy WITHOUT paying CCs to do so!

 

Imagine that! Sure surprised me. Explain that! I mean, as long as we're indulging in a bit of pedantry here anyway.

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Hmm. That's interesting. Like give an example. We're talking ARMOR SETS here though, right? The OP is discussing making multiple copies of ARMOR SETS, so is there an ARMOR SET that qualifies for this special case of being Bound to Legacy but NOT a part of collections that can be freely copied?

 

You pay CCs to unlock something in your collection? That's funny. I thought so, too, but today I placed an armor set in my collection, which is done simply by putting it on, mind you. You don't have to DO anything special. Then I went to the collections and made a copy WITHOUT paying CCs to do so!

 

Imagine that! Sure surprised me. Explain that! I mean, as long as we're indulging in a bit of pedantry here anyway.

 

As far as I know, the two sets that I get sent on every character as soon as I roll them do not show up in Collections. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this (because I'd rather know).

 

If you have a BoL armor set that DOES show up in collections (which, apparently, you do), you can print multiple copies of it on that toon only, but have to pay to unlock it in order to do that with any other character on your account. At least, I'm 95% sure that's how it works. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Ahh, pedantry, thy sweet petals of knowledge do grace my noggin!

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Sure surprised me. Explain that! I mean, as long as we're indulging in a bit of pedantry here anyway.

 

you are wrong

you do not understand 'Bond to legacy' meaning at all

 

what you are talking - it's a collection item

you can make any amount of copies of it if it's in your collection

 

but in no way it's a Bind to legacy set

you can not put in some mods and mail it to another your char or pass through legacy storage

it's bound to only one char

 

Bind to legacy items are taken from different reputations usually

and there are no restrictions on them to transfer between chars in your legacy, with mods or without

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Hmm. That's interesting. Like give an example. We're talking ARMOR SETS here though, right? The OP is discussing making multiple copies of ARMOR SETS, so is there an ARMOR SET that qualifies for this special case of being Bound to Legacy but NOT a part of collections that can be freely copied?

 

You pay CCs to unlock something in your collection? That's funny. I thought so, too, but today I placed an armor set in my collection, which is done simply by putting it on, mind you. You don't have to DO anything special. Then I went to the collections and made a copy WITHOUT paying CCs to do so!

 

Imagine that! Sure surprised me. Explain that! I mean, as long as we're indulging in a bit of pedantry here anyway.

 

I didn't say you had to pay CCs to have it show up in your collection, you don't. I said you have to pay CCs to make it available to all your characters. To do that, it has to be in your collection first.

 

Bind on Legacy is a term that has nothing to do with the Cartel Market. Look for example at the Hallowed Gothic armor set. It has a Bound to Legacy status and you can send it via mail to any of your characters even though you have worn it. And even though I am wearing that very set of armor on two of my characters, it is not part of my collection and I cannot produce new ones. I have to buy them with credits from a vendor.

 

Only items that originate from the Cartel Market end up in your collection and items that I produce from my collection are not Bound to Legacy, they are merely Bound. I can not send them via mail to one of my other characters, I can only use that set of armor on my current character.

 

So Bound to Legacy is not a special case. They are two very different things.

 

Edit: Items that Bioware gives you, such as for pre-ordering and the like, and that arrives through your mail, is also added to your collection.

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So there is something I want to do, but it requires 9+ full suits of Bind-to-Legacy gear. Is it ok to make a character run to the first mailbox, retrieve the free BoL armors, mail them, then delete the character and repeat the process? This is not something I have done yet due to not wanting to violate some policy, but would be handy.

 

it's allowed and a standard tool for alting :-)

 

and from my experience you do not need to update your gear every 4 lvls

 

usually when i really need to think about gear other then class quest rewards is about 21-23 lvl

next critical points will be around 31 lvl and then 41

at 47 lvl you will come to Makeb and get your bolster untill december - and do not need to think about gear untill 55

 

you companions are good with the gear they have on them when you got them - if you change old companion for a new one

untill you'll get healer - he is the most usefull and better equip him untill endgame

 

and it helps me very much to lvl to use heroic moments, without them bosses will be much harder

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Hmm. That's interesting. Like give an example. We're talking ARMOR SETS here though, right? The OP is discussing making multiple copies of ARMOR SETS, so is there an ARMOR SET that qualifies for this special case of being Bound to Legacy but NOT a part of collections that can be freely copied? .

1. The OP is talking about the free BtL armor sets you get when you start a new character. These sets were introduced with the GSF expansion. I'm not sure what the requirements are to get them - you may need to be a subscriber and/or been a sub at the time GSF was released, or w/e - but, I get 4 (different) sets when I start a new character.

The OP was talking about starting a new character, mailing the BtL armor sets to another toon, deleting the character, starting another new one, mailing, deleting, rinse and repeat until he has 9 sets of this BtL armor.

 

2. There are various BtL items in the game. For example the Scalene armor from the Gree(?) event on Ilum are BtL (or at least, the Blue Scalene chest piece I have is BtL.)

There are also BtL weapons from certain vendors. For example, from the Casino event - which you can still get if you still have some Golden Certificates (If I recall the name). A couple of others I can't recall atm.

Oh - in the Cartel market, using completed bounty contracts and the Gree vendor has some weapons, plus still others.

 

3. I'm not sure there are any BtL items in Collections. If I recall, all the items are Bound once you get them from your collection. So, even though you could get multiple armor sets from Collections, you wouldn't be able to send them to other characters, and therefore wouldn't work for what the OP wants.

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Well if you are a sub you will already get 4 legacy suits per character when you create them giving you a total of 16 suits (8 republic and 8 Empire) just from creating those 4 classes.

 

I am sorry, but what are those 4 legacy suits? I'm a subscriber and don't think I have ANY Bind to Legacy suits anywhere? I do have the Pilot suit though, if thats what you are talking about?

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I am sorry, but what are those 4 legacy suits? I'm a subscriber and don't think I have ANY Bind to Legacy suits anywhere? I do have the Pilot suit though, if thats what you are talking about?

 

You get 2 Imperial pilot suits and 2 Republic pilot suits per character for being a subscriber at the time GSF came out (or something like that).

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The Collections system is nothing to do with "bind to legacy." The collections system only applies to Cartel Market items. The OP is referring to the free suits you get for every character you create that were a freebie for being around when Galactic Starfighter was released. These armours are not part of the Collections system and cannot be unlocked in Collections. But you can make infinite copies of them by creating new characters, mailing the sets to other characters, then deleting the new character and repeating the process.

 

It isn't about pedantry. The two things mentioned here really are quite different (i.e. the one costs you nothing whereas the other costs Cartel Coins, which is why the OP is wondering whether Bioware considers it a legit practice).

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You pay CCs to unlock something in your collection? That's funny. I thought so, too, but today I placed an armor set in my collection, which is done simply by putting it on, mind you. You don't have to DO anything special. Then I went to the collections and made a copy WITHOUT paying CCs to do so!

 

Imagine that! Sure surprised me. Explain that! I mean, as long as we're indulging in a bit of pedantry here anyway.

 

You can make multiple copies on the character that unlocked it. But those copies will not be bound to legacy, they will be bound to that character. To unlock it for the other characters in your legacy you need to cough up some Cartel Coins.

 

For example, my Sage has the Life Day Robes outfit. I bought it last year at Christmas when I was feeling a little festive. She can make as many copies of that outfit as she likes, but she cannot sell them on the GTN, mail them to alts or even vendor them. They are totally bound to her, and only any use to that character and her companions.

 

If I want that outfit for my Jedi Sentinel or any of my other characters, I'm going to have to stump up 480CC for the legacy-wide unlock. I have not done so, because frankly, the outfit isn't actually that nice. This is somewhat different to how "bound to legacy" works. Bound to Legacy items can be mailed freely among your alts.

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